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These 22 people are just part of the moronic segment of the population who don't or won't believe all the reports about Mexi-hole and pretend nothing will happen to them. They're the same segment who will stand in the driveway, smiling and waving goodbye to their college kids as they go there on spring break only to have the American consulate in Mexi-hole call them a few days later to have them come down to pick up their kids hacked up body parts or to tell them that they've been taken hostage and to bring large sums of money in 50s and 100s. I can't feel sorry for them.

I was in the Yucatan Peninsula in 2005. Talking with one of the tour guides about Mexico in general, the subject of the drugs and crime came up. I told her good that it wasn't affecting the tourist areas. She said it was not as bad in the tourist areas as in some other places, but it was still bad there, just that it doesn't get reported.

Not going back to Mexico. Anywhere in Mexico, until the situation there makes drastic improvements.

I was on that tour once. Riding burros into the jungle. But this was back in the 80's. And I was there again in 2000. Still nice, but they outright told you to leave nothing in your rental car and leave the doors unlocked. We made the mistake of leaving our map in the car. It was gone when we returned.
Now, I wouldn't set foot in Mexico.

If you try Mexico, in its present climate, you are literally taking your life in your own hands. It is absolutely too dangerous to travel anywhere in Mexico today, whether it's a tourist area on or near one of the coasts, or within the interior of the country. Entirelly too dangerous!!!

Mehico is a volatile and dangerous place nowadays and that includes the resort areas, evidenced by this example. It's not burying your head in the sand or being paranoid by avoiding the area- it's simple common sense. That is, unless you enjoy being kidnapped & held for ransom or worse- shot & killed

And yet just a week or so ago there was some Mexican gov. official say that it was perfectly safe to travel in the tourist areas of Mexico.

When John Dillinger was asked why he robbed banks he said it is because "thats where the money is". And the Mexican bandits are also going to go where the money is. Save a lot of money and still enjoy a nice vacation here in the U.S. Create a job for an American.

What is surprising about this??? Absolutely NOTHING!!! And that reference to the Mexican authorities were called to investigate--- YEAH RIGHT! Mexican authorities are part of the problem. It's a corrput kleptocracy whose sole function is to secure the U.S. government's complicity in their ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SCHEME to ensure that Mexican foreign nationals send their U.S. blackmarket labor funds back to Mexico!

Why would anyone in their right mind want to vacation in a 3rd world country?

SemperFiman2, your comment about vacationing here in the good ol' US literally strikes home. So much to see and do here, and a stimulant to the economy!

One minor correction: It was Willie Sutton, not Dillinger, who made the droll bank-robbery quip.

Aren't you really, really glad you aren't a salesman (or woman) for a cruise line that goes to Mexico?

Jeez. What kind of IDIOTS would set foot in Mexico given all we all know about the fact it is utterly, totally corrupt in every way, shape and form imaginable - from corrupt police; to corrupt politicians to you name it - and if you do you will find it is corrupt!

Sadly, there will be no change in Mexico - ever - as long as we allow America to be Mexico's and all of the hell hole that basically all of South America is, to use America as their "pressure release valve". Mexico will not change because it doesn't have to change; the powers that be who have what they want in terms of wealth and position know very well that as long as they can keep shipping their overpopulation, lack of employment, lack of opportunity problems North and let the stupid Gringos - lead by someone who is perfectly willing to look the other way in return for the Hispanic vote - to America then they need not worry about the political and social system getting to the boiling point where their useless hides will be at risk of being nailed to the barn door as they so richly deserve to be nailed.

At some point, hopefully sooner rather than later, we are going to have to get someone in Washington, D. C. who is truly concerned about America's future as a nation and not ass kissing "friends" who are more enemy than friend; someone who is willing to say "enough is enough" and take the actions necessary to stand up for our country and actually do something to truly begin solving the problem, rather than worry more about getting himself re-elected so he can squander another four years of opportunity to get the country on track.

In the meantime, anyone stupid enough to go to Mexico - for any reason should be deemed lost and unworthy of anyone taking any risk to save them. If someone deliberately sticks their hand in a meat grinder and ends up with no hand - who is to blame and should we feel sorry for them? No, because they did it to themselves.

People were warned not to go to Mexico..their own fault..stupid is as stupid does!

Either we visit them and support them or they visit us..Its their only economy besides drugs.

I went on a Carnival cruise last year and they tout their ship-sponsored shore excursions as safe and warn you that if you don't pay the inflated prices for the excursions they sponsor, you are taking a real chance... Wonder what their line will be now. By the way, the best shore excursion we ever took was not sponsored by the cruise line... ATV riding in the jungle followed by cave tubing in Belize.... If you are ever there, I recommend it... cavetubeing.dot.com.

Spent a week in PV in `99.

Loved the place but that was a different time.

A shame the drug habits of Americans has fueled this crap.

talk about Mexico being a dangerous place to travel, how about southern Arizona, where signs are posted stating that these areas are dangerous because they are known to be routes used by smugglers...this is in our own country...and we citizens are being warned...so much for Obama's immigration policies.

This is still NO REASON to NOT kick out all ILLEGALS here in the USA.

These people ( Mexicans ) need to go back to Mexico and take care of the country they were born in.

GO HOME AND FIX YOUR COUNTRY.

GET THE ....OUT OF HERE. These people in Mexico could give a 5hit about tourists from the USA.

EVEN MORE APPALLING THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO HAS NO BALLS TO POLICE MEXICO ITSELF.

WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BABYSIT THE MEXICANS AND THE GOVERNMENT IN MEXICO BY

ALLOWING TRADE AND UNBRIDLED ACCESS TO THIS COUNTRY( USA )

Criminalizing marijuana has been one of the greatest crimes against humanity that the world has seen.

Marijuana? This is about cocaine and other high-priced drugs. Not marijuana.

Opto a % is. If Marijuana is only 30% or 5% of the trade. Its a big blow. And the amount of money that can be used from taxes could nearly erase the debt

At least the incarceration industry is thriving:-)

Most people are too stupid to connect the dots.

on't care...

FUBAR!

Americans are lied to about so much, on so many fronts, and for such a very long time. You have no idea. Information has been hidden, but we older folks know, and we will remember, and we will tell the truth.

One example: Stay away from Mexico. Stay alive, or, at least safe from harm.

And in other news, msnbc fags are so concerned about Latino Voters. Please ship them back to MEXICO if “msnbc” you’re so concerned about their country and they can help their own like we should ours!

Keep reporting on these stories, MSNBC!!! It's the only way both the US and Mexican gov'ts will be pressured to take action, not only in cracking down on the crime in Mexico, but the security of the US Border.

Shame on the Mexican gov't for sweeping the crime issue under the rug for so long. The more power you give to the drug cartels, the more they will want to take. Making their own citizens suffer won't be enough and we will see more tourists targeted in the open. More than what the media can choose not to cover. I hope these incident will be publicized more often and tourism dires up as a result!

To all the bleeding hearts out there: We cannot cherry pick and weed out who the "good people" are with good intentions sneaking over the border. Either way the law is being broken and if these criminals aren't afraid of coming after Foreigners on vacation they won't be afraid to attack residents on the US side either. Just because you might not be affected by border violence living on the east coast or midwest, doesn't mean that US citizens in AZ, CA, TX or NM should be pressured and forced by you to act so PC that they can't protect themselves!

As long as we allow law breakers and criminals to cross our borders, take our jobs, and collect our tax monies in the form of welfare and social services, this is only going to start happening here on a more frequent basis. And if you think you are immune because you live in some east coast blue state, think again. They are spreading throughout our country and headed for a community near you. When your kid gets killed or you get personally robbed by them you might start to look at things differently, but by then it will be too late. The damage will be permanent.

2 initiatives need to happen:

1) Investigate Border Patrol Agents, Police Officers and even judges that have even a tiny wiff of corruption. Weed out the ones that are getting paid off and throw the book at them. Show those who might even be contemplating making deals with the cartels that jail time isnt worth the $$$.

2) No more federal blocking of enforcing laws that are already on the books. There has been a law on the books since the 1940s that requires all non-citizens to carry their work visas or other papers AT ALL TIMES. How are we to enforce this if provisions continue to be blocked that empower law enforcement to check? What the hell is the point of that law if no one gets asked for their papers? Either amend the existing law and be upfront about your complete lack of intention to enforce it, or enforce the damn law!!! No more fence straddling BS!!!

And if you are an opposer of SB1070 ask yourself this: When I visit Europe or any other country where I am required to carry my passport, do I feel as if my civil rights are being violated? Then apply that logic to foreigners over here. If I can't visit or get a job in any other country without the proper documentation, then why the hell is it a problem to enforce that rule in my own country???

One more reason to HATE CRUISES!!!! BLECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you can't carry weapons on vacation, what protection do you have? Stay home and see some of the wonders that make this country as stunningly beautiful as it is.

They took your watch, wallet, and passport...You now have a lifetime hobby of watching your credit reports and watching your SS#. Just think of all those precious memories you are going to create!! Oh yea, just to make it better...they know were you live....

El Presidente says Mexico is SAFE....."We are open ("Open" meaning hunting in the States) for tourist season !"

Sounds a bit like our DHS telling our border States that the borders are SECURE !!!

The cruise industry has not been doing a bang up job on PR this year. Except the Itallian cruise liner ! If you're lucky you'll get some kind of food poisoning. Other attractions include taking a Queen Mary size ship. through the no wake zone. Lastly, the ultimate retreat where the locals take your souvenirs. What other brilliant ideas, boogie boarding off Somalia, port of call Syria, wine tasting in Fukashima ? Instead of saying," amigo " in Mexico. I think the statement should be " am I free to go ".

Why would anyone in their right mind ever vacation in Mexico??? Loco gringos....

Mexico was voted THE happiest...

Because all the unhappy Mexicans live in Arizona.

Amen to that. Why would people want to visit a place people die trying to escape from?

I avoid buying anything that comes from mexico. Why on earth would I go there !!!!

Nonsense. I go to Cozumel and the Yucatan all the time and it's perfectly safe. I would never turn my back on people that have been so kind over the years. I hope that the potential loss of $$$ will wake the mexican government from it's lethargy before too many people suffer damage to their businesses.

Pedestrian-in SF,

I think the potential loss of tourist $$$ pales in comparison to the $$$ the mexican government is making from the drug cartels, and other criminal activities. And the mexican government can always get a few more billion of our tax dollars in the form of aid to help them fight their own corruption, like we don't have a problem with that here. How's the crime rate, and the financial status of your "sanctuary city/state" where twelve year olds can get condoms through the mail on my tax dollars?

To William Root-odd concern you have, that 12 year olds can easily get condoms. Would you rather they did not use them?

STAY out of MEXICO , period, anywhere in MEXICO no place is safe !!!

Couldn't agree more, better stick to the nice safe streets of South Central Los Angeles...wait a minute how about South Bronx New York...hmmm...okay, anywhere in Detroit or Washington D.C.....well, on second thought, Puerta Vallarta doesn't sound so bad....

W Root - wtf are you babbling about 12 year olds and condoms here? Find an article on that subject on whatever whackjob site you read it to begin with and go to town. This thread is about Mexico and tourism and my experience in the Yucatan is that it is safe for tourists. Christ, you people... I swear.

William Root. You have to be the biggest idiot I have ever come in contact with on the vine.

Really? Blood sucking bottom feeding attorneys have no friends.

Back on topic - I am ever so grateful to have visited Cancun in the '90s, when it actually was still safe for tourists (who kept their wits about them). These days? All bets are off and the 18% who believe this was just an anomoly are either travel agents or the next batch of victims.

Seriously.

No ones perfect!

I've been to Mexico and I've been to Chicago. A comparison between the two...mmm, NO.

Glad to have made it to Mexico when I did. Not going back there although wouldn't mind a trip to Chicago again.

Theres parts of chicago that are just as bad. Also bad St. Louis,Memphis,Cincinatti,Eastern Kentucky,Cleveland,Toledo,Detroit, Camden NJ,Atlantic city Nj,Philly, Wilmington DE,NYC/North Jersey Metro.

On the east coast u can be touring a somewhat wealthy area & literally be 2-3 blocks from the worst areas. They overlap each other & u can stumble into badlands & never make it back to safety. I Would watch over my shoulder in select parts some of these areas.

Josetrueamerican

You people are a bunch of pu#$%^ies!!! You can walk in Chicago and get killed too so quit being so stupid with your racist comments. IDIOTS!

The race card? I suppose everyone who thinks Syria is a dangerous country is also a racist! But then again Syria isn't a border country of the U.S. and they can't run into our country. Why don't we have a problem with Canadian's illegally coming here by the millions, or their drug/human smuggling cartels as they are also a border country? Wake up, it has nothing to do with ones race. I think any American Black person would find it insulting that you would try and equate this country's opinion of mexico with what Black Americans had to endure!

A Mexican firefighter had twin sons. The first one they named Jose. The second one HoseB.

Willis 62

Can't speak for other areas you have mentioned, but NYC/N. Jersey is a safe areas in most parts. I work in Brooklyn's Brownsville and East New York area which used to be a real zoo, but now since Giuliani days, you can walk those streets safely. You will not be kidnapped for sure

Willis isn't wrong about Camden and most of Atlantic City though. I wouldn't even consider setting foot in Camden. But I only live a couple of hours from there, in another NJ county - and I live in as safe an area as most people can expect to live in these days.

Only thing wrong with your assessment mr willis. Cruise ships are dropping people off in Austin or in Camden or in some po dunk town like Oakland. You would have a point if the same thing happened in NYC's port of call. It doesn't and it hasn't so stop defending the indefensible. Mexico is a cesspool and we need to lock them all in before the violence gets out-of-hand (worse than it is already) and to the point where the USA can't suspend their brand of vile.

Hey JosieTrueAmerican:

Let me guess, picked Chicago because of a certain president??

Well here's a little something you could use.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/02/16/the-11-most-dangerous-cities

Facts. See Chicago on the list?? No you don't.

William Root

The race card? I suppose everyone who thinks Syria is a dangerous country is also a racist! But then again Syria isn't a border country of the U.S. and they can't run into our country. Why don't we have a problem with Canadian's illegally coming here by the millions, or their drug/human smuggling cartels as they are also a border country? Wake up, it has nothing to do with ones race. I think any American Black person would find it insulting that you would try and equate this country's opinion of mexico with what Black Americans had to endure!

Do you honestly think there's no drug and people smuggling coming from Canada and into the US? Are you that naive? Sure, it's not in the same amounts as through the southern border but it does happen.
You ask why there's no cartels in Canada or why Canadians aren't fleeing to the US. Here are the answers:
1- There are no cartels in Canada because they are not South of the US and in between the millions of American drug addicts and the drug producers.
2- Why would Canadians want to flee to a country that's inferior economically, educationally and is full of corrupt politicians?

Scar,

Let me guess, you can't wait to defend Obama even when no one brings him up.

Well here is a little something you can use about your article.

Fact: 10 of 11 of these cities have something in common. Bet you can't guess what it is!

Yep, just stay away from those little gatherings announcing "We want Democracy" Muslim Brotherhood rebels or the little gatherings of military announcing "Democracy What ?".

i live in san diego -most mexicans i know will not enter mexico by choice. they all have relatives in tj and will meet them at the border but will not return to mexico.

granny-that's because they are illegals and run the risk of not getting back in the US.

With most middle class college-attending people complaining about the cost of going to college, how is it they can STILL afford to go on "Spring break"? What do they need a break from, anyway? All the partying they do after attending class?

College is a time for continued growing up. Anyone who goes on Spring break or a parent who provides the money for their young adult to go on Spring break, needs a shot of reality. Tuition and books are bonifide education costs. Partying and Spring break expenses are NOT!! I don't feel sorry for the 4-year degree person being in debt after graduation -- unless he/she never partied or went on Spring break, and then he/she worked and earned some money during break times. The debt is for wants, not needs. It's about time they learned the difference.

Hehe, at first I started to respond to you seriously. Nice facetiousness. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

Those comments MUST be coming from a REAL moose.

Yep, curtailing gun ownership is really going to cut down on the number of crooks OBTAINING and USING weapons against citizens and businesses.

Great idea. You have now passed the resume test for this Administration and work at the DHS.

*whoosh*

Nothing but gun nuts who think Mexico is the US in this thread, move along.

Mexican authorities seem completely impotent in the face of their growing culture of violence? Well, get over it and do something about it because it is now affecting the security of American citizens. If Mexico cannot handle their drug cartels, instead of whining about the supply of weapons from the United States, they need to solicit the aid of the United States Military in eradicating this threat that is overlapping our borders. Enough is enough. If the Mexican authorities refuse the help of our military, and since we can invade countries halfway around the world to protect our interests, invading Mexico should be a bargain and we can finally have some security on our Southern Border! These drug terrorists are more of a threat than any Islamic group that we have faced and need to be stamped out like the roaches that they are.

@ldo, you should really work on identifying textual sarcasm.

What about these rumors I’ve heard that the Mexican drug cartels are starting to team up with
Middle Eastern terrorist types? Apparently drug money is how the ME terrorists are
getting money for their own worldwide terrorist activities – and they also like
being in closer proximity to the USA.

lkwdoh, here's one article and it's not even a recent one. There are tons of information on the subject. This has been going on for quite some time.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2008/07/mexican-groups-team-islamic-terrorists/

Maybe Calderon can take that damn sign of his pointed at us and have it facing east.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/02/17/mexico-unveils-no-more-weapons-sign-made-of-firearms-along-us-border/

Ido had to be using sarcasm also. No way was he serious.

From Chester:

Everyone man in Mexico owns a gun and you can buy anything you want illegally. Matter of fact if you are a person living in Mexico, it would be foolish not to own a gun. 90% of all kidnappings are not reported. I rather have a gun and have shot it out with kidnappers than be taken.

The last people you want to report a crime to is the police in Mexico. Once they see what you have in your house, you are on the list to be robbed.

Exactly what I was trying to point out to people in a recent article I wrote on my own Vine page, "Guns and the United States".

In that article, I explicity stated (quite a few times actually) that banning guns wasn't an option anymore. It would be nice to live in a world without guns, but the gun nuts have taken that option away. (They have had a lot of help from drug obsessed people - both the ones who use drugs and the ones obsessed with treating drugs like a religious sin.)

The point of the article was a really just a sigh of sadness that we are doomed spiral into a hell of violence and death ... something we can see very, very clearly in a country that is simply ahead of us on that trip down.

moose: you would have to be a total idiot to beleive that statement. You really think the cartels would give up their "store bought" guns ?

or are you just being sarcastic ?

it is illegal under mexicant law to own a gun you twit.

And we see how well their gun laws are working, don't we?

Yep, drug cartels influence outweighs the $$$ that the tourist industry brings in. Too bad :(

Actually, can you blame the honest Mexicans for wanting to come to the US when their country is so screwed up?

Honest Mexican??? is that a joke or what??!!!

ed papa! With you bro! I think it would have made a better episode of Fantasy Island though. Getting fantasy robbed at gunpoint. What fun! A suicidal midget standing at the front of the bus yelling "The gang! The gang!"

northernlights - you don't really believe that all those mexicans pouring over the border illegally are all honest, do you? Do you even have a clue how much crime they have brought with them into this country? It's not doctors and engineers the Mexican government is pushing over the border....

The problem is that plenty of criminals also flood over here with the honest Mexicans. I used to work at a place that printed the INS watch list (a listing of dangerous fugitive illegals) - it was 3000 dual-sided 8 1/2" x 11" pages of 6 pt. type, half-spaced and chock full of mostly Hispanic sounding names.

crying shame, "half spaced" ???? Really? Half spaced. I don't think so!

Ask the liberals on this one. They are not going to be happy until we are just like Mexico or worse.

The ones who have come here are only here until they earn enough to build the big house in Mexico and or buy enough cattle to be a big rancher. I know this becaus I work beside these guys and in the last 5 years have seen about 10 of them send enough back home( by living 15 to a house) and once they hit the magic number they go back. All the while lving here on your and my dime.

They claim to not be able to become citizens or speak the language as it is to hard. Yet they seem to be bright enough to find any and all loopholes in all our systems that they can exploit!

Ask the liberals on this one. They are not going to be happy until we are just like Mexico or worse.

The ones who have come here are only here until they earn enough to build the big house in Mexico and or buy enough cattle to be a big rancher. I know this becaus I work beside these guys and in the last 5 years have seen about 10 of them send enough back home( by living 15 to a house) and once they hit the magic number they go back. All the while lving here on your and my dime.

They claim to not be able to become citizens or speak the language as it is to hard. Yet they seem to be bright enough to find any and all loopholes in all our systems that they can exploit!

Robert ... best do some homework. The laws changed several years ago and it is legal for "non-citizens" to own property in Mexico. I have friends who have a lovely home in PV. I live in Central Mexico and have a home there. Here's some math for you ... I lived in Whatcom County of Washington State for 9 years and was robbed twice in Seattle. Why? Because I had to go to a Federal Government Office that was in a bad section of the city. On the flip side ... have lived in Mexico for 9 years and have yet to have EVEN ONE unpleasant experience. The bottom line ... be aware of where you are ... wherever you are. THIS IS NOT A PERFECT WORK. For that clown who said he would rather vacation in Egypt? LOTSA LUCK DUMMY ... YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT!!

Stupid comment. They should have hired a f**king private security guard or two. They have guns; they don't need no steenking badges!

I though "El Kabong" lived down there? He and Babalouie could have thwarted the criminals!

The "criminals" are financed by U.S. citizens.The cartels did not ,could not, cannot ,and would not exist if citizens of the United States did not support them. Luckily,Mexico is not powerful enough militarily to retaliate against the "friendly neighbor" that makes its not too distant destruction a very real possibility.