A report released today by the Republican leaders of a Congressional committee calls for the Transportation Security Administration to slash its work force, minimize its role in screening passengers and make public its performance results, among other recommendations.
The report, "A Decade Later: A Call for TSA Reform," was published by the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, which is chaired by Rep. John L. Mica (R-Fla.). Mica played a role in helping to create the TSA nearly 10 years ago, but has become an outspoken critic in recent years. On his website, Mica calls the TSA, " ... a bloated bureaucracy of more than 60,000 employees that is in much need of immediate revamping."
The report argues that the TSA should focus on its role as a federal regulator of transportation security and "get out of the human resources business." The TSA employs more than 65,000 people, including 13,000-plus administrative staff across the country.
Despite the TSA's massive work force, more than 25,000 security breaches have occurred at U.S. airports in the last decade, according to the report.
At the same time, the screening process has become increasingly rigorous for each passenger regardless of his or her individual risk. The TSA has developed a behavior detection program in an effort to single out potentially dangerous fliers, but according to the Government Accountability Office, 17 known terrorists have traveled through security 24 different times at the eight airports where this program is in place.
"TSA has lost focus on its security mission, instead of concentrating on setting and enforcing security standards and protocols," said the report. "Consequently, TSA is overwhelmed by the operation of its massive personnel bureaucracy."
Greg Soule, a spokesperson for the TSA, issued a statement from the agency criticizing the report: "At a time when our country’s aviation system is safer, stronger, and more secure than it was 10 years ago, this report is an unfortunate disservice to the dedicated men and women of TSA who are on the frontlines every day protecting the traveling public.
"In the past decade, TSA has developed a highly trained federal work force that has safely screened over 5 billion passengers and established a multi-layered security system reaching from curb to cockpit. Every day we see the effectiveness of these security measures with TSA officers preventing more than 1,100 guns from being brought onto passenger aircraft this year alone."
The report also slams the TSA's use of federal funding. The Congressional report notes that the agency spent $800 million on the behavior detection program since 2007 and that it will cost more than $1.2 billion in the next five years. Nearly $40 million was used to purchase more than 200 machines designed to detect explosives, but only half could be used after it was discovered that the machines could not detect explosives when installed in airports.
The TSA should act as a federal regulator that supervises private contractors in airport screening, argues the report. It also recommends that the agency make public its performance results after 24 months or when deemed safe for security purposes. Those results are currently classified. Finally, the report calls for a "comprehensive, independent study of TSA's management, operations, and technical capabilities."
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Rebecca Ruiz is a senior editor at msnbc.com. Follow her on Twitter.


I loved reading this section of the report: "Administrator Pistole stated that he does not see 'any clear or substantial advantage' to expand the SPP. This 'clear or substantial advantage' standard is not present in ATSA, and Administrator Pistole‘s adoption of this standard is arbitrary and capricious and in contravention of the law."
Administrator and Groper-in-chief Pistole makes a career out of acting in contravention of the law. His gang of criminals has also refused to conduct the required public notice and comment period on whole body imaging, even after a Court of Appeals ordered it in July 2011 to conduct a public comment period.
Pistole is a Peeping Tom, child molesting, cancer-causing, immoral lying pervert who deserves jail time for orchestrating a nationwide campaign of sexual abuse.
Heads should roll !!!
Yeah, in Congress!
So their "highly trained government workforce" has allowed 25,000 security breaches in 10 years. That comes to almost 7 security breaches a day!!! On top of that, they spend a fortune on a behavior detection program and still manage to allow 17 known terrorists to get through their screening on 24 separate occasions, meaning that they have missed some of these terrorists multiple times. It makes you wonder what it would look like if their workforce were not so "highly trained". TSA needs to get out of the business of staffing the security checkpoints at the airports. This should be turned over to the various airports to manage through their own contracting process. The problem with using a federal workforce is that it costs far more than private contractors due to the generous government benefits and automatic raises received for just managing to keep your job. It also makes it next to impossible to get rid of substandard employees due to the government's ridiculous personnel rules that protect the incompetent from being fired without mountains of paperwork and at least two or three opportunities for the incompetent to be retrained and improve their performance. Of course TSA's management is a joke as well. How do you spend $40 million dollars on equipment only to find out that half of it is completely useless to you after you already bought and paid for it. What moron wrote the procurement specs for the equipment and how many levels of supervision signed off on it?!?! They should all be fired for incompetence!!! Also, whoever approved the expenditures on the apparently seriously flawed behavior detection program should be out looking for a new job as well. The TSA is one of the most bloated and incompetent of all the federal bureaucracies and needs to be seriously cut back and new leadership put in place.
See that? The republicans want "private contractors" feeling us up. Hee,hee, the goddamn republicans don't miss a trick when it comes to turning a buck for their friends.
Mac Forrester
See that? The republicans want "private contractors" feeling us up. Hee,hee, the goddamn republicans don't miss a trick when it comes to turning a buck for their friends.
No different than the goddamn democrats pissin away tax dollars on useless @!$%#
Just disband the stupid TSA.
I want my liberty and freedom back.
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Sorry I seem to have no problem with being searched before boarding a plane, I fly a lot, and have no problems; every so often I get singled out for a more in-depth search, again no problem, most times its due to the electronics I have in my carry on that they want a closer look at. I do agree that there may be plenty of room to make this whole endeavor more efficient and easier on the taxpayer dollar, but I feel that the safety of our air travel against terrorism is absolutely necessary. BTW I never take off my wedding ring or my Rolex watch and the few times I have been questioned I politely state they may examine them while I watch citing the extreme value of these items. Every time I witness an altercation, (witness from the start like the guy in line in front of me) invariably it starts with disrespect directed at the TSA officer.
Yes - let's stop the TSA from stopping terrorists from carrying on guns - they only try to do that about once per week (and so far - all have been caught). But - hey ... the TSA doesn't really serve a purpose. And let's see how many posters will try to claim that those caught are not really terrorists (which will show that republicans are the ones who are really soft on criminals and terror).
And let's publicize what the TSA checks - so that those who would want to smuggle weapons on aircraft can study the process and find weaknesses. Then, after the terrorists are successful, congress can blame the TSA for complying with the congressional interference in trying to keep air travel safe in the USA.
Yup - makes perfect sense to the republicans. Let's stop preventing terrorists from being effective. Then those same republicans can claim that Obama is soft on terror. And the same republicans take no responsibility for their actions.
Let them reform the Abominable~~~~ "Patriot Act"~~~~ and give us our Liberty back! TSA is just a little part of it ... What happened to "Live Free Or Die!" ????????????
Hey TSA agents, you suck
The TSA has NEVER caught a terrorist or stopped an attack. The shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, all caught by PASSENGERS. After 9/11, the rules changed. Before the hijackers would take the plane somewhere and negotiate. After 9/11 every single person on board knows that they will DIE if the hijackers get control of the plane. Instead of taking away my money clip pocket knife, they should be passing out machetes to the passengers as they board.
Thank you for your insightful post, and let's hope it is the catalyst for improvement. Amen, Brother.
I will not subject myself to the tsa and have little regard for anyone that does. That said, the tsa should have never been formed and should be immediately abolished. Crap like that is the result of people surrendering to the terrorists. We lost without a fight.
13,000-plus administrative staff across the country
Amazing what our government can do in 10 short years!
What do you mean TSA lost focus? Wasn't robbing and raping Americans the focus of this Agency?
Due to family emergencies I have flown 3 round trips this year when I would usually fly 1. Blonde blue eyed female and every freakin time I fly I get pulled aside because they saw something on the scan and I get the so-called pat down. As a former abuse victim being touched by strangers feels like being abused all over again. I should not have to be subjected to a pat down because I have snaps on my shirt.
Cannonballer#1.6: I seem to remember the whole "Homeland Security, TSA" etc. concoction was a republican creation. Fear! Fear! Fear! You make it sound like your republicans don't spend any money. I contend they both "spend and steal" money. These bastards didn't say they wanted to do away with the function of TSA. They did say they wanted TSA to administrate "Contractors" to do that job. Republicans love contractors. They can then collect a good part of the money they claim to pay these contractors. The total money amount is the "mouth watering" ingredient that got these sons-a-bitches attention.
tbjtm#1.17: I fly pretty often and have been patted down only once. I'm sure not much to look at, but I am often lucky. 2 women agents took me aside and did the deed. One was older and a little heavy, but actually attractive. The other was a beautiful woman. The latter did most of the feeling. Told me to relax, and I did! I even tried, with body language of course, to get her to check some areas she missed. She got close but did not go there though. Had it been a man I would have been angry. These women though, were a pleasure. If it could only be the opposite sex doing the pat downs, I would fly much more, even unnecessarily.
I remember how the Republicans shoving a load of invasive sh** down our throats. Now, with flag in hand, NASCAR on the tube, and religious fervor in their hearts--blame their concoctions on the left. Do they want a some cheese with that whine?
Sandtrich, As I said my friend. These felonious bastards discovered all that money it costs to operate and maintain one of their schemes. Now, they are scheming to reclaim their scheme so they can steal all that money. Problem is, their tricks are getting tiresome and aggravating to the general public. Always a pleasure to see you. Say 'hello" to your family from me. Take care good friend.
occams razor - someone has to dot those i's and cross those t's in all those reports.
Hmm... and yet this ineffectual, unwieldy bureaucracy is absolutely necessary to our personal protection... yeah... sure it is...
And wait! I missed this when I first read it:
and yet, only eight @!$%#ing airports are using this program? Are you kidding me? $100 million per airport? And they STILL managed to let 17 terrorists slip past them on 24 occasions???
Time to end this boondoggle.
Terrible
Security
Apparatus
The problem with the TSA is that they are a burueacracy. This means that for every situation, they attempt to fit into a preconceived response. Thus, they detain A US SENATOR. The supposed reason for the TSA is to maintain the Security of our Transportation systems. Since a United States Senator is highly unlikely to be posing a threat to an aircraft, detaining him just raises the possiblility that he may decide to introduce a bill to eliminate your agency.
Likewise the pat down screenings of children and the strip searches of obviously feeble elderly people serve no purpose. These kind of situations are the oversized square pegs the TSA insist on fitting into its bureaucratic round holes.
It is time that the TSA get out of the screening business and make the airlines responsible for their own safety. If the airlines are able to maintain safety without having to grope every passenger, then the passengers will have a better flying experience and be more likely to fly. The TSA should only be evaluating the security, not "supposedly" maintaining it.
dirp101 #1.24,
By golly, I think you got it ! Too bad we're talking about a US government bureaucracy, they only know how to make them bigger, not smarter, nor more efficient, nor nimble.
It's about time
I am 68 and have an artificial right knee. I am on the TSA's dangerous person list and get the full (private room and flashlight) search on every flight. Long ago I stopped trying to be helpful with these idiots. So with all their advanced training and technology, no TSA agent has ever discovered the artificial knee (which has about the same mass and composition of a Glock 9mm.) They never quite figure out what sets off the gate alarm and I usually just comment that their equipment is probably out of calibration. I have tried complaining and trying to see about getting my name taken off the "maximum security" list only to be told by my Senators' offices that it is impossible to do.
I recently had $200 stolen from my pocket contents by TSA agents while I was having my butthole looked into by these idiots. I complained immediately because the rubber band I keel around my money clip when traveling had been replaced differently that the way I do it. I was told that the video tapes would be examined to see who the person is. Months later I received a form letter telling me that the video tapes had been misplanced and/or erased and that no further action was possible.
I live in Alabama (Roll Tide) and go the Unclaimed Luggage in northern Alabama fairly frequently. These are the people that allow the airlines to turn a profit on "lost" luggage. The airlines receive more money from selling lost luggage than they pay out to the people who lost the luggage. But the managers there tell a very different story about the TSA. They claim the TSA is running them out of business. I was shown a small suitcase with a "C" in chalk on the side next to a 6-inch slit. This is where a TSA scanner saw a camera in the suitcase and made the covert mark next to its location on the object. Then a confederate --- a baggage handler or another TSA agent --- slit the case at that point and removed the camera. They they change destination tage on the suitcase. The one I was shown had several contents indicating that it originated in or was going to Sacramento. But the tag had been switched to Hickory, NC. This is apparently a favorite because it does not have a baggage office and infrequent flights so lost luggage can sit for weeks before being shipped to Atlanta. The Unclaimed Luggage people say that since the TSA came on the scene, that most lost luggage is damaged in this way and any valuables removed.
And the TSA constantly lies. For example, they have confiscated millions of pocket knives. The TSA has repeatedly stated that they donate the knives to the Boy Scouts. The BSA has consitently denied that they have ever received as much as one knife from the TSA. But if you go on eBay and look, you will see thousands of knives, embroidery scissors, expensive perfumes in bottles larger than 3 oz, etc. These TSA employees are selling the confiscated items and keeping the money themselves. This is something anyone with internet access can check out for themselves.
The TSA is required by law to provide the same level of security for not just airports, but train stations and cruise ships as well. While the risk is nearly identical, and the results the same --- zero --- the security at my local train station is nil and the last cruise I went on the TSA agent failed to note two water bottles, one filled with vodka and one filled with gin.
The worst thing about it, however, is that if you wanted to position a Gestapo-like force in such a way as to be able to control the country with the fewest armed men, the TSA would be perfectly positioned. The lack of oversight and integrity on the part of the TSA makes them truly more dangerous to this country that any terrorist ever was.
Sounds like some Congressmen have a few well-connected friends they'd like to give federal contracts to for security screening.
Congress should report to the taxpayer about their performance every month. If there is a doing nothing
they should immediately be subject to recall.
Actually TSA gives the knives, tools, etc to state agencies where the airport is located. It is your home state that is putting these items up on EBay. I think it was the state of Pennsylvania that several years ago had an article how they were making money from the sale of items retained by TSA.
And I used to fly all the time. I've been at airports and watched baggage handlers open bags, go through them , then load them into the aircraft.
It isn't all TSA. There are more fingers in the pie than you think.
Chris-749391 #171.1
Nice analysis! The proverbial wolves, guarding the hen house. Just what we don't need.
There. Fixed it for ya.
Ron Paul 2012
OOOOOHHHHHMMMMMYYYYY you hit it on the HEAD.....
Lets quit with the waisted TIME & MONEY.
The TSA does not even need a Administrative Role.
That is just waisting MORE TIME and MONEY.
It's spelled wast'ing, Check your dictionary before you show your ignorance.
T.S.A. Totally Stupid Agency.
But look at all the terrorist plots they have stopped .... oops, bad example. They haven't stopped any. Maybe all the contraband they detect ... ooops again. Over 70% of all test contraband sent through TSA screeing goes undetected and this is with advance warning to TSA supervisors.
I am really tired of having the "boys" handled in the name of national security. The TSA comes closer to being a violation of the Defense of Marriage Act than to providing any security at all.
T.S.A - T housands S tanding A round (doing nothing and getting paid)
Get rid of the TSA and I might start flying again.
The report argues that the TSA should focus on its role as a federal regulator of transportation security and "get out of the human resources business." The TSA employs more than 65,000 people, including 13,000-plus administrative staff across the country.
And you would think all these people that they would expedite business and be more efficient. They are NOT.
I have not flown since 2005. I refuse to have my constitutional rights violated just because I buy a ticket to fly somewhere. I will resume flying again once the TSA is abolished. Until then, I drive if I want to take a vacation.
how many federal police forces do we need? we have the CIA, FBI, TSA, ICE, DEA, ATF, IRS and several more i failed to mention. none controlled by anyone other than themselves. even our Presidents directives are ignored if it suits their criteria. it's time to cut the number of federal employees and their pay to what most of us are making. see if your congressman wants to work for 10.00 dollars an hour with no medical and no retirement except social security and medicare
I will never fly again. No one tells me sit still and do what I'm told or face arrests and inprisonment for protesting. I'll just sit in my car and smoke away, giving you the finger while singing and texting or drinking, mmmm beer. (Sarcasm, although I will never fly again, I don't drink, but you get the point.)
The TSA is a joke and their comments about this report show the attitude that passengers deal wiht EVERY SINGLE DAY. "We can do no wrong, we will do whatever we like and we need 65,000 employess in order to continue our harassment."
The first thing congress needs to do is simply stop giving them billions. Let them figure out how to run their agency on a workable budget. The report is good, let's see some real action. If the TSA gets to call the shots, why waste our money on a report that means nothing.
They prevented 1100 guns from being brought onto aircraft, but they present no evidence that any of those guns were being brought on an aircraft for the purpose of hijacking the plane. I stopped flying commercial because I always carry a gun. But I don't carry one in order to hijack an aircraft. So now I use other means to travel. Does that make the flying public safer? I don't think so.
They also dont say if they found the guns in bags going to the cargo area. Im willing to bet thats where most of them are found...
It also says nothing about how many guns were found per year before the TSA was formed. They may have found 5000 guns per year before and now they only find 1100.
Useless stat.
And John Carter is another republican who is soft on crime and terror. Why would anyone now carry a gun on an aircraft (none were in checked baggage - which is legal)? I know - he is too stupid to know that this is now a major issue? He did not know that terrorists attacked the USA in 2001? He did not know that we are still at war with Islamic Fundamentalists - also known as terrorists?
Or maybe he (and all the other 1100) are terrorist supporters. And those soft on crime and terror - also known as republicans - would come to their defense.
And - by the way - they also look for box cutters, knives, and other types of blades. You know - the kind used in 2001 by those 'law abiding' terrorists that you support.
It's not illegal to transport a weapon on an aircraft as long as it's in your checked baggage and you declare it when you check your bag as long as your traveling in the USA.
I think the country is tired of Team Sexual Assault. Sadly the TSA thinks they are above the laws, including the laws of decency. I realize no organization is perfect, and they have taken steps occasionally when the story is just too hot for them to handle, such as firing the agent who put the note in the suitcase, but the bottom line is that the agents don't follow the rules, and there is nothing you can do.
I flew recently two times, round trip. In three of the 4 cases of TSA screening, even with a big sign saying that you can now leave a netbook in your carry on bag, they claimed it made things "too crowded" and proceeded to unpack almost the whole bag. Once was in front of me..fair enough...the other two times they took me aside to be "wanded" while they went through my stuff. Then they give it back to you in a big heap, and you are supposed to put it all back, and to notice if anything might be missing. Personally, I only fly when absolutely necessary, like everyone else, because between the TSA and the horrible airline service it is just not worth it.
Exactly... Back in 2004 they stole my $800.00 .. 24 year old wedding ring and claimed they were not responsible... I had been pulled to the side while my contents were left unattended,, I asked about cameras but they said they had no film to show what happened to my ring... Before you say why did I take it off,, I was trying to make sure nothing would set off anything.... After all, once before they had told me to empty my pockets, but a piece of paper was hanging out of my shirt pocket... The guy was a dick and said I TOLD YOU EMPTY YOUR POCKETS STUPID, what part of that did I not understand... I said its paper, he said I was starting to smell funny... Can you belive that @!$%#? I asked what that meant, next thing I knew I was told it was being put into some kind of data... WTF... So yes, I took off everything including my ring everytime there after.. about 10 trips later, They stole my ring at Tampa international and said so what... NAZIS.... I want Ron Paul to become President now and stand up for the working American.... Change was Rons campaign till the Obama and banker money team stole it.. Freaking joke.. NAZIS
If you really cared for your country, why would you tolerate that and continue to fly?
Everyone who flies commercial is a traitor to this country. If you can't make even that much sacrifice to defend our most basic Constitutional rights, you don't deserve to live here. Go live in China, where you belong.
whosaid,maybe she has no choice,I myself don't fly while this ridiculous persecution is going on at airports.I won't go with in 50 miles near an airport.However some people's backs are against the walls.They just can not help it.There's no other way!
I agree with you 100 %that people who don't have fly are Cowards.You're right they should sacrifice to defend our basic constitutional rights.But others as I have said have no choice!
Sorry for your ring. TSA stole some stereo equipment out of my bags. But don't you think it's a stretch to say Obama's responsible? It was 4 years before he was president when they stole your ring. Kind of stupid to blame it on Barack don't you think?
Gloria, I can't imagine how there could be no choice, other than flying to reach a loved one on the brink of death.
I would do that. I wouldn't fly to keep a job or for any other reason, even if it meant severe sacrifice on my part. If we won't stand up for our rights, we don't deserve to have them.
There are citizens who are willing to die for our country. And yet civilians are not willing to change jobs or be inconvenienced in their travel arrangements? The internal threat from our own government is many times greater than the external threat. Don't talk to me about 911, because 911 was carried out by a group of MORONS who would have been easily stopped if our FBI and CIA had been doing their jobs properly rather than posturing around in their little sunglasses acting like movie stars. In fact, they WERE caught, by our own citizens, who were ignored by our so-called security agencies.
We have the power to put a stop to this nonsense NOW, by simply refusing to fly. Anyone who doesn't make that sacrifice is a traitor and deserves to live in a police state.
I have to go to Europe soon. I'm going by ship. It takes longer and costs more, but my country is worth it.
I couldn't careless with or without the TSA.... Who can afford to fly anyways?
The TSA was meant to be a Good thing, and it went over board with it's Jack Booted treatment of AMERICANS. Get rid of it and let America get on with it's Free lifestyle that was taken by the last Administration.
Gary you described these Jackasses to a Tee.
Gary-well said- but not just Americans getting the shaft from the TSA-as an Australian (yes Obama is here saying how we are 100% on the same page for all "our" citizens) I travel thru the States very often and I get stopped, patted, touched and abused almost everytime-for what??? I aint 300lbs of burger mince waiting for my 20 year pension with a shield??? Dump the TSA now-Gary win this one for me and all Americans-best place on the planet I say-be well all good folks, in Ozzie today, states for New Year.
@Gary
Are you not surprised?
ANY THING a government agent tries to do, it screws it up and on a bloated bottomless pit for a budget to boot!
The TSA: Security Kabuki, now with more molestation!
Fire every one of the GED-holding mouthbreathers. Billions of dollars down the toilet, savaging of civil liberties and all for nothing. They're a waste of money and do more harm than good.
Maybe if we grope a few more octegenarians at the gate we'll be safe!
Sorry I seem to have no problem with being searched before boarding a plane, I fly a lot, and have no problems; every so often I get singled out for a more in-depth search, again no problem, most times its due to the electronics I have in my carry on that they want a closer look at. I do agree that there may be plenty of room to make this whole endeavor more efficient and easier on the taxpayer dollar, but I feel that the safety of our air travel against terrorism is absolutely necessary. BTW I never take off my wedding ring or my Rolex watch and the few times I have been questioned I politely state they may examine them while I watch citing the extreme value of these items. Every time I witness an altercation, (witness from the start like the guy in line in front of me) invariably it starts with disrespect directed at the TSA officer.
Apparently you don't understand the notion of Constitutional rights.
Perhaps the TSA would start doing a better job if they got their freak on...
SLASH THE WHO gOD DAM ORGANIZATION.THROW THESE BUMS OUT.It's about friggen time that they are being exposed for what these PARASITES REALLY ARE.IT'S CALLED CRIMINAL AND USELESS.
This country is BROKE yet everybody in Washington pretends there's nothing wrong and keeps this Homeland Security and their bitch the TSA afloat.Straining taxpayers and spending money on these LEECHES!
The Biggest Crime of all People, that these MAGGOTS VIOLATE YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS BIG TIME.
Word should of been Whole.I get really fired up when it comes to these Clowns!I can neither Stomach or Stand Them.
If Congress is looking for places to make budget cuts, this is the place. They need to cut DHS over-inflated budget especially the TSA's budget which has exploded in size. Congress can save $100 Million a year just from scaling back on the DHS.
Phew! I, as an Independent, non-teabagger, think modifying the policies of the TSA is the way to go. My wife won't fly unless we positively, absolutely have to. That said, aren't we about JOBS. Throwing several thousand people out of work because they are following the rules is not something I would favor. As with any bureaucracy, private or public, the top is usually too heavy. Look there for cuts. They're the highest paid and the most able to find jobs - lobbying perhaps. The TSA has been way to knee-jerk in its approach to airline passenger safety.
What!! They want to stop paying child molesters to fondel our children....No........Tell me it's not true. Isn't there job to scare us away from flying? They can stop freedom by limiting where and how you travel. Sounds like an Osama Bin Obama plan to me.
Yikes, you're scary. BTW, it's"their" not "there".
You do realize, or maybe not, that TSA was a G.W. Bush idea.
Adjust that tin foil hat Dude.
Thank you Mike076. This is my pet peave that people who post to these sites do not even try to spell correctly. Also I would rather have a enhanced pat down then to be blown out of the sky. I have a artificial knee so I usualy get special attention.
ogreugly....
You should refrain from comments about people's spelling unless you're absolutely sure that you can spell yourself.
peeve - not peave
than (since you are using the comparative sense) - not then (which is used in a timeline)
Just saying.
Thank you scrooksy, It's just my pet peeve that people spell their as there and your right about than. I just wish that people would put a little more thought into their posts.
I almost don't want to comment on this one for fear of being accused of "piling on", but...
The correct word you were looking for in your first sentence was "you're" - a contraction for the words "you" and "are", not "your" - a pronoun indicating possession or ownership.
After 4 million miles and fifty years of commercial flying, I QUIT! They don't care about me and I will return the favor. TSA is an embarrassing joke about leftover paranoia and the inability of its leadership to build a system that learns and evolves. When I discovered that the prior TSA administrators went into the business of selling scanners to the TSA, that ripped it. TSA=corrupt, incompetent enterprise.
To little to late Obama.....You did not care till OWS finaly happened and our people are taking to the streets by the hundreds of thousands.. so screw you, YOU NAZIS.... Ron Paul and the people are going to put a dagger through your treasonous TSA programs heart... No more.... Freedom is not free, just some had forgot..... We ARE the home of the brave.....
lol. You think Ron Paul is going to do something about it.
And you believe that the TSA is one of Obama's programs?
Some people just love to remain ignorant.
One has to love the left-right paradigm. Yes it was George Bush who was in office when the TSA was formed, and yes Obama could fight to stop it. It is called more of the same, and 100% evidence it does not matter who is in office from the two fake political parties. Ron Paul is consistent, his voting record untarnished and available at numerous websites to view. He has proven he would put a stop to it, not just in words, but in his deeds. But go ahead and blame the party you do not support and believe that doing the same thing over and over will produce different results while arguing its all "the other sides problem." I will sit back and mourn the loss of all of our rights, the death of the constitution and our freedom while laughing that those who refuse to see the problem will eventually wake up to see it is too late to do anything about it, and they were the reason it was allowed to happen.
The TSA was a good thought but it has executed so poorly it has done very little good. I prefer the screening in South Africa (even 35 years ago they were years ahead of where we are today) and Israel. Both countries know how to engage and question so that they screen without denigrating the innocent flyer. In all instances my screenings out of the U.S. have been able to visually and immediately that I have a real disability and there is no need to have my pants removed to confirm it. Let us eliminate them.
I think what the TSA is really afraid of is making their performance reports public. Then everyone would see they have a success rate of roughly what you would see from a middle school baseball team up against the Dodgers.
Flying is a privilege, not a right. If you don't want to go through security lines, stay at home or drive or take a train. There is a reason TSA exists and the reason is that we had terrorists attack us. When the terrorist risk goes away we will no longer need TSA but until that happens, a little inconvenience is worth the pay off in safety.
"stay at home or drive or take a train"
Unfortunately 2 of those are out as well, TSA VIPR teams are working train stations and highways now as well, so what's your next argument? walk everywhere?
brenda your dumb ass post HOLDS NO WATER.All your doing is repeating what that stupid Witch who is head of Home Land Security said.She makes this stupidity up as she goes along!
You sound like a Parrot!Polly want a Cracker?
SMARTEN UP!
It's an illusion of safety. When was the last time you heard of the TSA catching a terrorist? Answer is never. They flunk safety checks all the time. Just ask people you know who fly how many times they took banned items on a plane because they forgot they had them and the TSA missed them. I personally know quite a few.
Get rid of the TSA!
The TSA has not caught a single terrorist with their privacy invasive procedures. The ones caught have already gotten on the plane but failed at setting off their explosives. But everytime it happens, Americans lost more of their civil rights with "more airport security" imposed on them.
The terrorists have won. We have given up our freedom and live like fearful, sniveling cowards.
How about when they used to confiscate nail clippers, and you could then BUY THEM in the terminal gift shops?!
I think Brenda (or family) works for TSA. That being said, I think the American people have had quite enough of bureaucracy from TSA to FBI to USDA to FDA to heaven knows where. If all these acronym agencies were really interested in being successful on helping and protecting the American public, they would start focusing on real problems and quit pandering to the less than 1% of fearful folk.
I'm all for being safe on any flight. I have no problem with my luggage being checked. I'm happy to go through a metal detector and a bomb sniffer. I'm not hot on x-rays, and I don't want my junk touched. We can be just as reasonably safe with less invasive measures. Yes, someday the measures will probably fail. That's what happens. But I don't think the current measures will a bit more successful.
I want these folks employed, but I want to see a positive-type of employment. Just "following the rules" is an excuse, not a mandate of safety. (Searching babies, the obviously handicapped, the elderly, people's hair is just "following the rules." These people aren't a danger to anyone, but it's the "rules." Therefore, they are not valid search objectives.) The one support person for every front-line rule enforcer is a bit excessive, not surprisingly so.
Let's be safe, but let's not continue being stupid with our government agencies.
No Zapper poor Brenda is just Brain Washed and Bamboozled like the millions of other Americans who put up with this TSA CRAP THINKING IT'S FOR THEIR SAFETY.
PITIFUL ISN'T IT?
brenda-wot mushroom did you crawl out from? a privelidge???? its a right you FOOL!!!! add some more crap to your pile and stay there- free people should be able to fly if/when they want to and not be harrassed by dead beat overpaid jerks. go on American freedom-so NO to the TSA.
Correction: The one support person for every FIVE front-line rule enforcers is a bit excessive, not surprisingly so. Sorry, left the five out.
Brenda,
The government does not get rid of agencies. They rename them or combine them with other agencies to fool the members of the public who are not astute enough to realize. Magicians call this "sleight of hand" I call it depending on the ignorance and ostritichlike behavior of the general public.
I once knew a man who worked for / with the Warren Commission. He told me that if the people of the United States knew and understood even half of what the government did there would be anarchy.
That was 35 years ago.
I am all in favor of limiting the role of the TSA and backing off on these stupid searches. However, neither do I want this turned over to a private company-that would really be a disaster.
Why do you think that would be a disaster?
bnx -- before tsa security was managed by private companies. many of the initial tsa folks came from these companies. going back to what did not work is not the answer. i believe that the typical airport could lose 30 - 40% of the tsa folks and little would change. many have 2 people sitting on chairs to make sure people do not enter the terminal without going through security. 1 person could certainly do this. i fly out of sat nearly weekly and can confidently state that the 30 - 40% tsa golks mentioned earlier are doing nothing to ensure the security of the traveling public.
Wait a minute. So the GOP wants to slash the TSA? Wasn't it a GOP President who created the TSA, and one of his buddies who ran DHS, and then went on to work for the company that makes body scanners? Where is their profit motive? It has to be there somewhere. Either they have all bought stock in whatever they want to replace TSA, or they have a former GOP lawmaker who is now the CEO of whatever will replace TSA.
I never thought I would say this about the TSA, but..., be careful what you wish for. I have been through the airports where TSA has been replaced with private companies, it is far from better. If we privatize, we will get a company that is accountable only to its stockholders, and can violate our civil liberties with little public oversight. While they are not perfect, the TSA works for us and not some giant corporation that will likely incorporate in Ireland to avoid paying taxes.
Ahmen Sevenseat, Here in Indiana our gop so called leaders have tryed to privatize several agencies. with not very good results. Cost us several million dollars and all we heard from our gop governor was OOP'S
What do you call putting 60,000 government employees out of work? A good start! When America needed jobs to get out of the last depression, FDR gave them jobs - rebuilding our infrastructure. Like to see how long some of these would last groping rocks and waving pick-axes.
Realize, the average education in years of TSA employees is only 10.6 years of formal education. Given that, America has 60,000 idiots pretending to be some sort of bad ass enforcers. When on a flight from Reno to Phoenix, nine years ago, I was FORCED to remove my shoes, be subjected to a PAT DOWN, before being allowed to go through to my gate. I am continually wondering why Americans put up with this crap when it is not necessary. F#&@%# flying, and TSA.
Would like to know where you get your figures. Has it been 9 years since you've flew. Do you remember Scotland, Detroit, plus several other occasions that have happened over the last few years. I get special attention every time I go through security because of an artificial knee but I don't mind and I have yet to run into anyone from TSA that was discourteous towards me.
It is funny how you often read articles about people who stopped flying after being abused, many of them said the same thing. Keep in mind, the attitude of "it has not happened to me yet" does not mean it "will not happen to you in the future". We do not need your expert opinion of the TSA from experience, your one experience is negated by tens of thousands of negative ones. Be glad you are lucky and stop closing your eyes to reality. The truth is there if you choose to pay attention.
TSA is just one of the many insane responses of the Bush administration's reaction to 911. We do not need the TSA nor the Patriot act. While we are looking for ways to cut our country's deficit, many of the Bush reactions could be eliminated for the better of our American way of life.
It's also fashioned after the German Nazi Gestapo Organization back in Germany in the 1930's.This is just a shadow of it.But no less it's EVIL.
THE PATRIOT ACT NEEDS TO BE ABOLISHED.This law puts one of the Darkest Shadows across the United States in the History of this Country.The ones responsible for this Horrific Law need to be brought up on Criminal Charges.AS far as Bush is Concerned,HE'S NOTHING BUT A WAR CRIMINAL.
TSA and Homeland Insecurity, are part of the master plan to strip our freedom as we become a police state. We do not need either agency, nor do we need or want the Patriot act, that the war criminal George Bush put in place. Rip the Patriot Act up and put Bush in prison where he belongs.
You do realize that Obama and crew also expanded the law. I guess that makes them all criminals of course everyone already knew that..
Every flight could be a danger.
No matter how much Security they have put in place, displacing us with ridiculous Security screening (pat downs) (x-rays)--=radiation?; nothing will work.
If a Terrorist or passenger wants to get the job "done", it will happen.
How much Security does TSA have screening active Commercial Airline labor workers, and Pilots for Commercial Airline Companies--my friend who is a top mechanic, told me anyone can get thru in his area of expertise--planting bombs in the ceilings of the aircraft or other hidden places.
None of these procedures by TSA are 100 per cent full-proof. I am glad that they are cutting back.
Now flying may be a little bit easier. Just get the Terrorist, that's all, not the old lady in a wheel chair, or little children.
People, please respond with "some" intelligence. Bush was "in office" when the patriot act was passed, and Obama has expanded it, supported it and not fought to remove it. This means we cannot justify either, both are just as bad. However, with that said... Bush and Obama are presidents and presidents do not vote on or pass laws. This was done under Bush with a democratic senate/house and has been renewed under Obama with a republican senate/house. Both parties at fault, neither can easily be laid at the feet of Bush or Obama except to say they did not veto anything surrounding it, or ask that the legislature look into alternative or its destruction. They could also effect changes to the organization through executive order, and did not. But the point being, it is BOTH parties, both the executive and legislative branches with a fair amount of support from the judicial as well. The only way to fix this is vote both parties out and take our country back.