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Subscribe to RSSInvestigators are looking into how a Delta 767 and a regional jet collided at Logan Airport on Thursday night. Nobody was hurt, but the damage to the planes was extensive. NBC's Brian Williams reports.
The National Transportaton Safety Board (NTSB) said Friday it is investigating a Thursday collision between a Boeing 767, operated by Delta Air Lines, and a smaller regional jet at Boston's Logan Airport.
Initially, the Federal Aviation Administration was conducting the investigation, but NTSB stepped in due to the extent of the damage. "We learned early on there was substantial damage to the regional jet," NTSB spokesperson Peter Knudson told msnbc.com.
NTSB defines "serious damage" as "damage or failure which adversely affects the structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement of the affected component."
The agency has obtained the black boxes from both planes.
Delta Flight 266, carrying 204 passengers, was taxiing for departure Thursday night when its left wing collided with the tail of Atlantic Southeast Flight 4904, carrying 74 passengers.
The 767 was able to taxi back to the terminal under its own power, said FAA spokesperson Jim Peters. Passengers on the smaller plane were bused back, and the aircraft was towed off the taxiway.
NTSB's Knudson said a preliminary report will be available within 10 business days, though an entire report will take much longer.
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Cool!
Thankfully, the Party of No wants to gut the FAA and increase the length of ATC shifts while denying their collective bargaining rights.
Heck of a job, Teathuglicons!
someone had neck pain and a lawyer has already been called I assure you. America!
IN all honesty I hope it is minor and no one is seriously hurt. But hey if I am on a commercial jet, of which I am already petrified of flying. And am assured its the safest forms of travel little things like that simply shouldnt happen and my neck would hurt to I can imagine. Flying in general gives you that. And I was in the army and never didn't feel safe then. So go figure
Here comes the frivolous lawsuit
You are so right quick cash for the TRASH I say
My sentiments exactly. I'll bet my last dollar there was nothing wrong with that persons neck. It was a golden opportunity to make a quick buck at the expense of the airline and the insurance industry - what an unfortunate thing, this paints a negative reflection of our society.
What we desperately need is serious Tort Reform in this country to put a cap on these types of B.S. lawsuits. They should also publish the names of the persons filing these lawsuits and the results of their medical evaluations. Maybe a little embarrassment might also deter these suits.
Part of the problem is the public sees these lawsuits as winning the lottery. It costs the plaintiff nothing, yet they can walk away with a nice sum if they find a slimy enough attorney.
If taking cases in exchange for a percentage of the winnings - where the client pays nothing unless they win... if this type of case is banned, then the client will think twice before filing the suit.
Forget the person complaining about the sore neck...this is too obvious. The real concern should be HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN??? Stories like this do not give people the "warm and fuzzies" about flight and ground traffic safety. The TSA is checking our shorts before we can board, but the ATC or the pilots cause us to soil our shorts shortly thereafter !! Holy merde...I will have to sit up front on the flight deck to make bloody certain they are all paying better attention ...
Yes I'm sure with all of your experience reading MSNBC articles on overblown aviation stories that amount to a fender bender, you will be the expert in the cockpit overseeing the highly trained pilots and their $30 million jet, making sure they are doing what they should.. gimme a break.
can you honestly say you can oversee a very qualified pilot over how they should navigate a 767? You have to be kidding me. Remember where you sit at in that airplane, and who gets you to your destination safely. Accidents like this happen with any type of motorized transportation. That's a risk you take with flying, but millions of flights happen every day without problems, so i'd say you don't need to oversee the pilot.
It's not like a jetliner has side mirrors for the pilot to see what the tail is doing when hes moving it, now, I don't know any details, but I'm pretty sure this kind of accident would have to have happened while he was backing the plane up from the terminal, so, if that's the case, this major malfunction really can't even be placed on the shoulders of the pilots, instead, it would be in the hands of the ground crew that give the pilot directions while taxiing. One thing for sure, someone/people will be losing their job/s over this, sucks to be them...
Well, either a pilot didn't follow instructions, or a controller wasn't watching what they were doing. Those are pretty much the only two possibilities. Either way, it's not good but it could have been much worse. Thankfully, it wasn't.
Fortunately it happened on the ground.
Not another clip of a regional jet. Last one was an A380 clipping a Comair RJ. Those things are too small.
There go the insurance rates again. Next time you pay an extra $20 or $30 for that flight you can thank the neck pain and the lawyers from this incident.
I think lawyers are a pain in the neck.
And your azz....
I think the planes we fly are getting to big.
Really? the 767 is smaller than the 747 and those have been around for over 40 years.
Personally, I'd be more concerned with the fact that there have been two ground incidents like this in a very short amount of time. Either it's becomming a problem (which has nothing to do with the size of the aircraft) or we're finding out more due to the 24/7 press.
So quick to jump to the conclusion of a frivolous lawsuit! Do people realize how long and costly those type of cases are? It can take YEARS to settle with major corporations - and by that point, one is honestly in a "who cares I don't even want the money!" state of mind. Not to mention the fact that many, many, MANY wrong-doings by big business go uncorrected because of a stigma against seemingly frivolous lawsuits. Watch HBO's documentary "Hot Coffee" and see if that doesn't stop you from pointing fingers!
Don't get all in a tizzy. They will settle out of court with the person to avoid just the long costly sequence of events you describe. Quick money and probably is behind on a couple of mortgage payments. One person has neck pain out of that many passengers? Guess he shouldn't have had his head up his butt.
If we stopped allowing all of these frivolous lawsuits, then wouldn't be a stigma in the first place and maybe more real issues will get corrected. It would also speed up the courts as they don't have to waste so much time on cases that should never even be allowed into court.
lol neck pain
I wonder if the "injured" passenger was a member of Brasil's women's soccer team. They had a fair amount of mystery injuries, and miraculous recoveries.
WELCOME TO AMERICA
THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITIES.......................FOR LAWYERS
THE LAWYERS BS WILL NEVER STOP IN THIS COUNTRY, JUST LOOK AT THE CONGRESS AND THE HOUSE, MOST POLITICIANS ARE LAWYERS, DOES ONE THINK THEY WOULD CHANGE THE LAWS.
For God's sake pilots, pay ATTENTION!!!Geeezzz..
More like ground control pay attention. The pilots rely on them to get them taxied out safely as they have a very limited area they can see out of the aircraft. Without the good guidance they are virtually blind to all but whats right in front of them.
Roger that Captain Todd...
Wow, are you all ever cynical.
According to Republicans...this is Obama's fault for not resolving the debt crisis and giving more tax cuts to Oil companies, corporate jet owners, and millionaires who create jobs but haven't done so in the last 10 years even though that is how long they have had the Bush Tax cuts.
So much cynicism, so little time. Sigh......
The neck pain was from straining to look out the window to see the other jet. Luckily, lawyers are standing by.
you need to check your facts the ASA jet should have had 4 crew members since there was more then 50 passengers a flight attendant is required for every 50 passengers starting with 19 passengers or more seating configuration.
Ah...............good old Delta.............a scary airline on a good day. Obviously this was NOT a good day.
I would walk before I would fly Delta.
Whiplash! Call a lawyer.
This is something that the TSA needs to get involved with. I mean really, plane on plane violence needs to be addressed. A quick pat down may stem the violence or at least have the planes remove their wings to prevent this from happening again.
Is there an extra charge for this per person, like $50 to repair the planes?
And the person that hurt their neck could be charged a whiplash fee!
A neck injury? Give me a freakin' break.