Planning to gate-check that stroller? Check again

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Starting June 1, American Airlines will no longer gate-check large strollers. However, passengers will still be able to gate-check a collapsible or umbrella-style stroller under 20 pounds.

Parents who consider strollers essential tools for moving kids, diaper bags, car seats and assorted kid-related stuff through the long corridors and slow-moving security lines at the airport should brace themselves: Beginning June 1, 2011, American Airlines will no longer gate-check certain strollers.

In order to get to the gate with stroller in hand, travelers flying American will need to bring a collapsible or umbrella-style stroller under 20 pounds.  Under the new policy, large, jogging and non-collapsible strollers will also be checked at the ticket counter.

The good news is that checked strollers will travel fee-free.

The bad news is that families who don’t want to haul everything (kid included) on their backs will have to travel with a lighter, secondary stroller.

“It is simply a matter of many strollers these days being very large and not being collapsible and easily handled at the gate and on the jet bridge,” said American Airlines’ spokesperson Tim Smith.

United also requires passengers to check big strollers at the ticket counter, but Alaska, Delta, Southwest and several other airlines allow strollers of any kind to be checked at the gate. “We know that traveling with little ones can be a challenge,” said Southwest spokesperson Laurel Moffat. “We want to make that travel experience as easy as possible.”

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I haven't seen a stroller that doesn't collapse...ever, maybe I live a sheltered life...

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Tue May 31, 2011 9:57 AM EDT

Schedule wheelchair service. Sit down and put the kids on your lap and let them figure out how to help you with your bags. Can you imagine being parents of twins and a toddler even triplets?

    Reply#2 - Tue May 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

    No can do. Employees will refuse to wheel you if you have a minor in your lap for legal reasons. I had a legit back injury and was wheelchair bound. My husband had to manage the carryon and the baby/stroller.

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Tue May 31, 2011 11:53 AM EDT
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    It is amazing how much "stuff" is considered essential to travel with babies now. When I travel with my babies it was a diaper bag and car seat that I carried--that was it. No stroller, etc, etc, etc. You do not need all this stuff to travel with little ones.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue May 31, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

    When you have a 35lb 19month old you better believe a stroller is necessary. (before all the people obsessed with weight chime in, he is also as tall as most 2 1/2 year olds so no he is not fat) He is also not to a point where is can hold a hand and walk down a concourse. So even if all you have is a purse, a diaper bag and a 35 lb baby, then that is probably close to 50 lbs. Last time I tried to carry him through an airport, my arm throbed for over a week and I couldn't pick him up. All of you with little babies you are very lucky, but for this mom who travels alone with her child alot, a stroller is 100% necessary.

      #3.1 - Tue May 31, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

      The last time I flew with small children I flew alone with three under 4, no stroller, just a diaper bag and a baby front pouch for the littlest one, the other two carried their change of clothes, snacks, books and toys in small backpacks. I did have kid harnesses on the older two to keep them from straying too far.

        #3.2 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:13 PM EDT
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        Is it really necessary to bring everything but the kitchen sink when you travel with kids? The concept amazes me. Even when I was a kid I never remember my parents bringing a stroller to the airport: I walked with them, and I carried my own entertainment. Kids who need 14 toys for the plane ride probably also need ADD medication...

        Personally, I think airlines should get tougher on people who overpack. Not only does is scream of overindulgence, but it's bad for the environment! Maybe (I hope, in vain) it will stop some people from traveling with kids so young that they'll never remember the experience, but instead will make it miserable for everyone else.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue May 31, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

        You've never had to do a 30 hour journey with a under 3 year old.

        We live outside the US, but go home 2x a year as my parents can't afford to travel and we'd like our children to have a passing familiarity with their home country and an occasional non-skype relationship with their grandparents. Singapore to Boston door to door...30 hours. Our daughter gets her own seat (which we pay full price for). As a young child it is safest for her to be in a carseat, so that needs to come on the airplane with us (although now that she is approaching 3, we are considering shifting to the CARES system...an FAA approved 5 point harness that uses the seat's own seatbelt, which would allow us to counter-check the car seat or potentially just leave it in the US as we don't own a car in Singapore). We bring the stroller, but generally counter check it, preferring to have one less thing to deal with in transit.

        However, it is financially irresponsible for us to have two strollers, two carseats, etc....one for each country, especially as we are only in the US for about 2 months a year. So while it is a giant pain in our butts...and believe me, it's not fun...it is what's required, in part because MA requires a car seat until the age of 8. When you/I were kids we stopped needing car seats at a young age.

        Keeping her happy (and well behaved) requires a combination of iPod apps and videos (do you know how many times a 2 year old can watch the SAME episode of Ni Hao Kai Lan on an iPod in the 10+ hours from Japan to the West Coast? I do), books, Disney Princess dolls, coloring books and crayons. It all fits in a carry-on tote that fits neatly under her seat. She doesn't need ADD meds, or benadryl. She's often far more well behaved than many of the adult passengers I see on those same flights.

        All of that for less than a 7-10 hour flight? Absolutely a waste. But when you see me board your plane in Chicago for Boston, what you don't realize is that we've already been traveling for 24+ hours.

        • 4 votes
        #4.1 - Tue May 31, 2011 12:04 PM EDT

        It's unsafe, cumbersome and too heavy to carry an infant in an infant carrier, which is also a rear facing car seat, while walking for extended distances/periods of time. It's not safe to carry an infant in your arms should you trip etc. Obviously, an umbrella type stroller is not for infants who cannot sit upright. So how would you travel with an infant? You'd need a regular stroller that can carry the infant carrier/car seat. Sure, it is big but can fold up just as well that it actually goes through the cabin baggage screener in security. Also, it is not safe by any means, not to mention illegal, to have your infant in anything but the above mentioned carrier/car seat while in an automobile, in which you would get home or to your destination from the airport. Maybe us parents with infants should just stay home like decades ago since you 'CJ-2001013' have now grown up and don't see the valid need for strollers. Would do everyone well to think awhile before deciding parents of young ones like to bring more stuff than they want to.

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        #4.2 - Tue May 31, 2011 2:36 PM EDT

        That is very impractical for parents traveling with very small children under the age of 2 years old. Just one more reason to skip the flight. After all the delays, lost luggage, and extended security checks it took me longer to fly from one destination than it did to drive back. It has become such a hassle and the cost was no different than when I drove. Why are the airlines punishing their passengers?

        Once I flew with a small umbrella stroller. It was collapsible and quite small. The airline still broke the front wheel and refused to help me reach my transfer flight. I had to literally run with my small child and all the stuff we were lugging around.

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        #4.3 - Tue May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT

        Quit being so judgmental.

          #4.4 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 12:06 AM EDT
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          This really isn't new. Every airline that I know of has the term "umbrella-style" stroller listed in their Contract of Carriage.

          I guess they are just now enforcing their own policies.

          I once took a picture of a mother with one baby, and she was getting away with 12 different carry-on bags. She had to have the help of the gate agent and a porter to bring her things to the plane.

          Here's the pic (if this allows links): http://twitpic.com/28lb2c

          I think enforcing carry-on rules for families will be a good start for diminishing overhead bin space problems.

          It's rather outrageous that children get carry-on bags that are larger and weigh more than they do. Their parents are just too cheap to check the bags.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#5 - Tue May 31, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

          You're quite judgemental.

          #1-The car seat is not a carry on.

          #2-there were two backpacks. If the child has a seat of their own, they are entitled to the same carry-on policy as the adults are (1 bag and 1 personal item...and no, the car seat doesn't count). It looks like she was trying to avoid checked luggage...which is totally understandable. I once had to gate check a carry on (because the plane was full and I was among the last to get through the security checkpoint on the short stop between Singapore and Hong Kong, not because it was larger than what I was entitled to) between Hong Kong and Chicago. When my daughter spilled water on herself (because the sippies, along with her extra set of clothes were in the carry on) she had to be wet for 6 hours of a 16 hour flight.

          I think it's outrageous that people like you sit around taking photos instead of helping a mom traveling alone with a child. Maybe the smaller your compassion, the smaller your carry on should be?

          • 3 votes
          #5.1 - Tue May 31, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

          You seem quite judgmental yourself, expat.

          There were actually 12 bags sitting there. I counted. She had taken over the entire gate area.

          I have no obligation to help someone who is too cheap to check bags and cannot manage on her own. The gate agent and the porter both had to carry bags to the plane. The plane actually took off late due to this customer.

          The world does not revolve around people with children. People with children should be treated the same as people without children.

          One of the first things you learn when traveling is to not bring more than you can carry. This woman brought more than 3 people could carry. This flight was less than 2 hours. She did not have a connecting flight afterwards. She was a pain in the ass to the gate agent, and she did not tip the porter.

          I was on crutches for this flight. I have been known to help people with children. But, on crutches, I am certainly not going to do so.

          Because this woman took up the gate agent and the porter's time, I had to crutch down two flights of steps to the tarmac carrying my small backpack with me.

          So, who do you want to feel sorry for? The woman who is a bitchy, entitled, cheapskate single mother who cannot pack?

          Or the handicapped person who plays by the rules and doesn't complain when the previously mentioned person takes away the porter that the handicap person reserved and already tipped?

          • 6 votes
          #5.2 - Tue May 31, 2011 3:48 PM EDT

          I rarely reply to any of these posts but do read. Do you ever think that people travel for reasons other than pleasure, Cassivella? I will give you an example. When I deployed to Iraq, I had to fly my 4 month old son back to my parents where he was going to stay for a year. Let me tell you no matter what it is not easy traveling with a child and there are many circumstances when it cannot be avoided. Not only was it necessary for me to fly him home, my family and I used every last dime to get him there. Not that we were "cheap" but wouldnt have the extra cash to pay 25-50 per bag (whatever it is now). And here is another example.. What about traveling with a small child and you are stranded somewhere overnight- not long enough for them to compensate a hotel- now what if you didnt pack enough diapers, formula, ect ect. It is just a thought for people who always seem to be so small minded.

            #5.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:30 PM EDT
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            I'm a Premier Executive member with United (50k+ miles a year) as is my 2 year old because we book her a separate seat when traveling.

            When she was younger we used to gate check her stroller. I have tried the cheap 20 dollar umbrella strollers and all they did was further damage my back from having to hunch over, so until recently when we found a nice umbrella that wasn't damaging (the Uppa Baby g-lite), we traveled with her primary stroller, a Bugaboo Bee. The Bee (unlike other Bugaboo strollers) is only 17 lbs and does a flat fold. While the travel bag is larger than most, we never had trouble gate checking it with United.

            Since she has had her own seat (about 15-16 months) we have traveled on the planet with her car seat. There are a variety of attachments that allow you to either connect it to a carry-on (the traveling toddler, $15 on amazon) or in the case of a larger car seat (we have a new Britax Marathon 80, and it's too "tall" for the traveling toddler) we use the "go go babyz" set-up ($80 on amazon, I believe) which is basically a dolly specifically for the stroller which folds down small enough to go in an overhead or in a closet on the air craft. This allows us to counter-check the stroller, as we would prefer to have as few moving parts as necessary.

            Now that she is approaching 3, we are hoping to downgrade her to a CARES system (FAA approved device that turns a regular lapbelt into a 5 point harness), which would further eliminate something to take on the plane/gate check.

            Unfortunately her younger sib is going to be born in November, which will start the system all over again.

            I'm really not surprised at the usual baby-hating crowd's turnout. Which is sad, considering my 2 year old is generally more well behaved than most adults I see on flights.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Tue May 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT

            Unfortunately her younger sib is going to be born in November

            Don't let your spouse hear you say that ... LOL

              #6.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:07 AM EDT
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              I travel with my 3 year old twice a year. He is autistic and unable to communicate verbally or walk next to me through the airport. When we travel I bring his stroller and a bag with various toys as well as a diaper bag with clothes, diapers, and snacks. Yes, he is still in diapers...part of autism. Whe we travel I have my hands very full and sometimes need a little help. That does not mean that I should remain locked in my home so that I don't interfere with your self absorbed trip. Try to have compassion for the people around you. You caould have a child or grandchild one day that needs a little more from the world than you are currently giving.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#7 - Tue May 31, 2011 5:09 PM EDT

              nmbrsgrl123 - I feel for your situation as I have members of my extended family who are also autistic and can certainly appreciate the hardships that come with raising an autistic child let alone travel with one. However, I must say that this is a two-way road. People should have compassion for those in need of assistance. On the flip side, those in need of assistance also have the responsibility of being considerate of other's as well. The expectation should NOT be that one person's burden must be carried by another. The expectation should be that others should be allowed to volunteer their assistance against this burden. Again, I feel for you and would be there among the first few folks to offer my helping hand should you and your child travel on the same trip as me. At that point, you will know that my assistance is volunteered and not done out of expectation.

              What concerns me is you speak of other travelers being concerned about their "self absorbed trip" while you righteously speak of your "self absorbed" needs. Other travelers have the right to enjoy their hard earned "self absorbed trip" should they so choose. This is the same in your situation in that you have the right to enjoy a trip out of your home even with the challenges you face. So before you call for compassion I hope and urge you to see that you are putting your expectations for compassion ahead of your responsibilties to not force a burden on others selfishly.

              All the best with your child as I DO know the challenges first hand of raising an autistic child (from 3 different degrees of severity with 3 different close relatives). Although not a parent of an autistic child, I have certainly been a large part of their upbringing and care.

              • 4 votes
              #7.1 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:21 AM EDT
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              I didn't travel by plane with either of my children until they were old enough to walk on their own. Sure, I'd carry them a lot of the time, but for the most part, I could at least put them down so they could stand next to me or walk slowly beside me.

              Sure, some people think they don't have a choice but to travel with their very young children. And yes, these people can't be expected to carry luggage and a child or two through a mile of airport.

              And yes, I was asked to come visit with my children when they were very young.

              But, if I couldn't drive the distance, I didn't go. A choice I made, and this was long before 9/11.

              There are tons of choices people make everyday based on many factors. If you need a huge non-collapsible stroller to travel with your child, but don't like the thought of having to check it and carry the child through the airport ... start working out now ... or bring someone along who can carry the child, or ....

              Don't go!

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Tue May 31, 2011 5:44 PM EDT

              Fee-free for right now. Next year, it will cost your $25 (or the same cost as regular baggage) to check your stroller in. Nice new fee scam.

                Reply#9 - Tue May 31, 2011 6:46 PM EDT

                It is understandable that you need a stroller, but it is not necessary to have a huge one that is as big as a grocery cart.  Many airline employees have gotten injured carrying huge strollers up and down jetbridge stairs that are sometimes very steep.  An umbrella type stroller should be sufficient for you.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#10 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 12:00 AM EDT

                 I have a 2 and a half year old who just completed her 26th flight since the ripe old age of 4 months.  We have never once brought along a stroller of the bulkier kind.  An umbrella stroller was used maybe twice and earlier on in our new parenthood.  Outside of that, we had her diaper bag with some toys and lots of munchies.  I'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't have more "things" with them when they fly with a young child/infant.  However, what I am saying is that it IS possible to fly with less "things" when flying with a young child/infant.  Good luck to all those parents who are flying with young ones!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#11 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:06 AM EDT

                Parents need strollers to get little kids through the airport. Airlines shouldn't make things harder than they already are. Infants can't sit in umbrella strollers, parents of two or more kids may need a double stroller etc...Parents who are flying (especially when only one parent is flying) should get help from the airlines and the passengers-it makes things easier on everyone. Kids aren't just going to go away and stop flying, so why not make things easier and keep everyone's stress levels down?

                  Reply#12 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 5:36 PM EDT

                  Entitled much?

                  And airlines aren't making it harder - they are simply enforcing rules that have been in place for years - rules that are being broken hundreds of time each day.

                  I think the point is that neither the airline nor the other passengers actually want your children on the plane.

                  Especially when the child is a lap child, the airline is certainly not making any profit on the child. I can guarantee that when a gate agent sees a single parent with an infant and 12 bags, they are cursing even if the child has a full walk-up fare ticket.

                  Perhaps if flying becomes expensive enough (I am hoping that the concept of lap children will go away, especially for safety's sake), or if it becomes enough of a hassle for parents, then they will "go away and stop flying".

                  Parents with children have absolutely no right to travel via airline. Children are not a legal handicap that airlines are required to accommodate. Children are a choice that parents have made (or perhaps they are a mistake the parent made and that is why they get so upset about it when the children interfere in their lives?). People who have made the responsible choice to not burden strangers with children (and this includes responsible parents who manage their brood effectively) should not have to suffer because someone lost the sperm lottery.

                  Parents also should not expect (I find it ridiculous and sad) complete strangers to assist them with their burdens. If you cannot handle your children on your own, then you can bring along a nanny or even a high school student (students will often babysit and assist merely for the price of a ticket and accommodations) as was common in the old days - you know, back before people with children ever dreamed of taking a screaming days-old infant into a $300 a person restaurant at 11pm.

                  Perhaps, along with PetAirways, someone will decide to create an airline that caters to families with young children. Oh wait - people have looked into the financials of doing so and realized that families are not willing to pay for a seat for their young children, and they certainly will not be willing to pay a fair enough price for a ticket on any airline that would allow an airline to provide services for children (you know, the average price for airline tickets is half what it was the first post-deregulation year?).

                  So, I guess looking at the money, which in any business is really all that matters, airlines will continue to focus their services towards the people who actually bring in revenue - business travelers. Otherwise, when you use Expedia or Orbtiz and buy a ticket where it actually costs the airline more in fuel to move you from point A to point B than you paid for the ticket, I wouldn't expect to have any special treatment.

                    #12.1 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:22 PM EDT

                    By saying "Parents with children have absolutely no right to travel via airline" I mean they have no constitutional right to travel.

                    The freedom of movement clause in the Constitution does not give everyone the right to travel via any conveyance other than one's own two feet.

                      #12.2 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT

                      Cassivella, I feel like you're basing most of your outrage about the subject on this one woman who was either a) inconsiderate (as you automatically assume) or b) too inexperieced at travel with young children to know that generally, less is more.

                      I travel pretty often and this woman is not typical of the average parent traveler - rather, most parents who travel with their young children learn pretty quickly that it's all about streamlining. With 2 young kids, we carry a backpack, diaper bag, stroller, and sometimes a carseat. Not having to keep track of 50 (or even 12) things makes the whole process so much easier. It could be that this woman just didn't know better - why do you automatically assume the worst?

                      In any case, I'm not up in arms about the policy. Not only do we not have an infant anymore (we've graduated to an umbrella stroller instead of the collapsible double stroller) but I'll just fly airlines, like Southwest, that don't have this policy. Your grouchy self can patronize the other airlines, and everyone's happy.

                        #12.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 9:53 AM EDT

                        No, Anne,

                        I have found through flying 4-6 times a week that most parents haven't a clue about how to handle their children in the airport.

                        And, in general, and as proven by the rest of the responses here, I have found that people with children feel that the other passengers owe them some sort of pity or help.

                        Feel free to pay more and get less flying the cult airline. I'll give a wave next time I'm sitting in first class.

                          #12.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:30 PM EDT
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                          I have done over 80+ flights with my 2 year old and my umbrella stroller is something that I consider essential when doing most of my trips. I have seen the cargo hold that is used for "gate checked" items and understand the restrictions placed on bigger items-it's not a huge space. I love my jogging stroller, but when I want to travel with it, and I have, I have no problem checking it as I know it will be safer for the stroller that way. I don't think airlines put these policies into place because they want to "be mean" or because they don't want children flying. More of my thoughts can be found at www.kellyouimet.com

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#13 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT

                          Wow Cassivella.  I feel sorry for your children should they ever be so unfortunate to be born to you. :( 

                            Reply#14 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:36 AM EDT

                            Unlike most people in the US, I actually have a handle on the reproductive processes of my own body.

                            So, I don't think having children will be a problem I will encounter.

                            I think that for a lot of parents they probably should have planned a little better themselves, so that they quit blaming other people when they act like their children shouldn't be affecting how they live their lives.

                            But, I am perfectly happy to accept the criticism.

                            Parents - it hurts when the majority voices how they really feel, doesn't it? Now you know exactly what people are thinking when they glare at your screaming progeny as you do nothing about it.

                              #14.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

                              Just goes to show that even if you can afford a first class ticket you can't buy class.

                              • 1 vote
                              #14.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:51 PM EDT

                              I believe that when Cassivella says he has a handle on his reproductive processes, what he means is that he has no shot of getting laid.

                                #14.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:19 PM EDT

                                How sexist of you to automatically think I am male.

                                I'm not, and my sex life is just fine, thank you.

                                Ad-hominem attacks really aren't an effective way to debate an issue. But, they are usually used by people who aren't intelligent enough to actually contribute to a discussion.

                                  #14.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:35 PM EDT

                                  Ah yes Teri because sex always results in pregnancy, so therefore those of us who choose not to have kids aren't having sex (that was sarcasm in case you didn't get it). Many of us do have sex, but we choose to use a little something called birth control which helps prevent conception. Now, as long as people don't abuse their kids, I'm not going to tell anyone else whether they should have them or not. But they shouldn't expect the rest of the world to cater to them. A smaller stroller will get the job of transporting a baby across an airport fine. Kelly and some of the other more sensible parents here can attest to that.

                                  As I mentioned earlier, my mother managed to take public transit across much of the NYC area with a small stroller back in the late 1960s/early 1970s. By the time I was 5, she trained me to give my seat to elderly people as I was old enough to hold onto some of the spots in the subway, while my younger brother was in the stroller.

                                  When did so many (not all) parents and kids alike become such delicate, precious snowflakes that they have to inconvenience everyone else by hauling huge strollers everywhere? God forbid a parent not have a place to put that Starbucks latte while pushing the kid.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #14.5 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:48 PM EDT
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                                  it's about time. Why should I pay $20-plus dollars to check a compact, 25-lb suitcase while these parents who can't seem to travel without 300 pounds of kindergear are accommodated free of charge. Let them pay for the space they use, including a seat for each child. It's time the rest of us stopped being asked to subsidize those who choose to procreate.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#15 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT

                                  I've had a skin cancer removed, least serious type. Do I get special exemptions to carry extra sunscreen in excess of the 3 oz limit? Nope. So I check a bag and pay the $25 fee. Yet, I still have to wait behind everyone else boarding & deplaning while people who violate the limits get their stuff and hold the rest of us up.

                                  I really respect the parents who are considerate of others and travel with a reasonable amount of luggage and take smaller strollers on board. The rest of you need to get a grip. Your universe may revolve around your kid, but not everyone else's does. To be honest, your behemoth strollers are annoying in the stores, sidewalks, etc. Particularly the side by side ones. Especially when you let a kid cling to each side. My mother would regularly travel all over Brooklyn by public transit and sometimes even to Manhattan. This was back in the late 60s/early 70s. She had the big carriage for the trips which were a lot of walking and a small one for mostly mass transit trips.

                                  She managed that stroller up and down bus stairs/subway stairs and through several boroughs. Don't tell me you can't handle an airport trip in a stroller. And btw, given my mother's training, I help people up & down subway steps with strollers and give my seat up to anyone who needs it more. Including elderly people (though I've eased off with the men as they seem to get offended when a woman offers), people with disabilities, pregnant women and people traveling with small kids. If you want respect, better be prepared to give it too. It's so sad that so many parents are failing to do so these days, though a few of the parents who posted here such as Kelly give me hope for the future.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#16 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:16 PM EDT

                                  Hey No

                                  Next time you are at the doctor office, have your doc write a note on a prescription pad saying you had skin cancer and need more than 3 ounces of sunscreen.

                                  You can then carry on a larger bottle.

                                    #16.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:24 PM EDT

                                    Thanks, I will ask about that.

                                      #16.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT
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                                      Child-haters, please take note: The majority of the gear for kids are activities to keep them happy and quiet, so that they don't bother you. You just might consider, the next time you travel and see parents with a lot of stuff for their kids, that you, gentle stranger. are the person they are trying to appease.

                                      Additionally, with all of the stories we've heard in the last few years of flights being held on the tarmac and with some airlines not even providing milk, parents have to be prepared for such unforeseen circumstances. This does not mean parents shouldn't have to follow the rules, but it might mean they use all of their baggage and carry-on allowances, in addition to a carseat and stroller. Believe me, when I have to take a flight with my twins, I know that keeping my twins happy means you will have a much happier flight. It's a win-win. Keep that in mind next time you see someone weighted down with stuff.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#17 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:57 PM EDT
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                                      Interesting Momoftwins2, I notice it's the parents with the most literal baggage who have the ill behaved children. Parents who travel with a reasonable amount seem to be able to control their kids. I guess it's that crazy thing called discipline. Works for kids and packing.

                                        Reply#18 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:05 PM EDT

                                        Last year I was traveling overseas with my 2young children, 1was 2 1/2 and the 2nd was 1yr. I had a connecting flight to Paris. At the get go, they took my stroller at the airport, telling me that there is courtesy strollers in Paris and that was their lie to let me hand them my umbrella twin stroller. When I arrived to Paris, the joke was upon me. They didn't have no free to use strollers and no one to help me switch airport. So, here I am with 2babies, 2bags, and having to walk a mile to catch my next fly. Now, who can tell me these poeple have a hear knowing all my journey which it tourned to be 23hours with 2children. I would amagine my self dealing with the trip if I were alone but the babies? I don't think so. Anyway, all I have to say is no one cares for your confort but you, so make sure you have everything lined up in a way to help you make a safe and comforting travel. Thank you Mrs. Knight

                                          Reply#19 - Fri Jun 3, 2011 1:06 PM EDT

                                          I find the idea that parents, especially parents of two or more little ones NEED a stroller absolutely ridiculous. When my oldest was born we went out and bought one of those expensive "travel systems" that's a stroller with a snap out car-seat in it. We've never once used the stroller, and our second child is coming up on a year now. It was a waste of money.

                                          Our oldest was taught that he can either walk holding hands or be carried at a pretty young age, 15 months or so. If he ran off from us we caught him and spanked him. I know the idea of punishment is soooo outrageous now a days but it actually does work.

                                          Once kids can walk consistently without falling down every few paces they should be out of a stroller. Putting kids old enough to walk on their own in strollers is part of what's causing the epidemic of childhood obesity in this country.

                                          For non-walking babies they make these things called baby carriers like Ergo and Baby Bjorn. You wear them on your body and baby rides in them. The carriers, to me, have been way more valuable than a stroller. They're highly portable, you don't have to fuss with them into and out of elevators and you don't block and inconvenience other people. Plus babies get added benefits from being worn about rather than staring at the ceiling in a stroller. I can deal with the 3 year old and the baby just using a carrier and a purse.

                                            Reply#20 - Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:20 AM EDT

                                            You know, you are the first person I have seen that has suggested that strollers may be contributing to childhood obesity.

                                            I am inclined to agree with you.

                                            I often see children that are the same age as the kids I used to referee soccer for (4-7 year olds) riding in strollers.

                                            I also see people with older children NOT using the stroller for their children, but rather bring the stroller along simply to carry all of their carry on luggage (I guess they are too cheap to rent a smart-carte for $2.25).

                                              #20.1 - Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:54 PM EDT
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                                              As someone who had to fly for a family emergency with twin infants under 6 months old it would have been literally impossible for me to fly without a double stroller. And they don't make a double stroller that weighs less than 20 pounds. So what exactly are all of the mothers of twins (or heaven forbid triplets or quads) supposed to do in this situation?

                                                Reply#21 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:44 PM EDT

                                                You can check your stroller, and you could carry your children, just like humans have been doing for millennia.

                                                Exactly what family emergency requires the presence of a 6 month old child? I think a lot of families would be better off leaving their infants at home. It's not like the child is going to remember anything.

                                                  #21.1 - Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:54 PM EDT
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